However, if you come out ahead in that first skirmish and don't make any major mistakes for the first lap, you can generally keep the lead, even with a blue shell and some red shells (assuming you're not racing against a bunch of other pros). For more help on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Edition, check out our Coins Farming Guide, Essential Tips to Win the Races, and Best Karts Combinations Guide. 3 red shells >>> 3 mushrooms. That's pretty much the whole gamut of first-item-box weapons. This is probably the most incomplete Mario Kart they've ever made, fun but definitely incomplete. I still find myself getting a lot of bananas and green shells in first place, which are about as useful as it gets in that position. The probability is coded as percentage multiplied by two. i say it is terribly optimised in favor of casuals, for MK9. This game became fun again. With every bite of the plant, players get a small speed boost, Super Horn Game gets boring when all you get is bananas, mushrooms and coins though. 9.0k. Communication errors no longer occur frequently while spectating or after spectating online matches. This all comes back to the item distribution formula. Its the frequency of the coins that sucks. ;). If you can explain why I deserved to get the red shroom, and him the golden shroom that would be nice. Once I place high enough to start near the front, then I know that getting first place is well within my reach, and I get more disappointed when I don't place high. @Glutenbob: If you look at the items at any point in a race, though, it seems like the majority of them are mushrooms. Tactical items on the other hand can’t be equipped for defense and instead once players use them, they initiate an effect which lasts for a short while before disappearing completely. It seems to me that the other two parts of the formula you mentioned -- position and distance -- would pop out roughly the same chance for an item as people around you simply because the positions and distances are all pretty similar. It's really boring. Mushrooms are now less about the speed boost and more about cutting off track. Once fired, the green shell will bounce around the track if it misses it target so it still has a chance to hit someone if they are not careful. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Items Guide will break down all the items in the game and the best way for players to use each one of them to gain an edge on the track. The coin isn't useless, but it's close. Can't edit the title. If I get a red shell, and everyone around me gets a red shell, then what's the point? Red Shells also home in on the nearest target in front of the racer so players should always have something to protect themselves from an incoming red shell attack, Triple Red Shell I suggest you to git gud, because this only ressembles to "I lost, so it's da gamez fault". While the ink fades away on its own, use of a Mushroom, a dash panel or driving through water will also instantly remove it and clear the vision, Boomerang Flower Once fired, it moves along the race track pushing everything out of its path until it reaches its target, jumps into the air and then dives down with a huge explosion, throwing the target into air and spinning out anyone nearby. Sorry this post isn't very thoughtful, it's very difficult to be bothered to re-post something I already said a while ago, twice. ... Biggest Mario Kart roster ever The Mario Kart 8 Deluxe game has 42 characters to choose from—the biggest roster in the series! One of the biggest upgrades: “Players who are behind in online matches will receive items geared toward catching up more frequently.” That means more Bullet Bills and Gold Mushroom, and less Green Shells and Bananas. So there's room for high level play thanks to the coins. If that game were 12 players online, it would probably have the same effect as Mario Kart 8, where the people who can gain an early lead will stay there as long as they drive well (though blue shells show up more often in that game than most of the others). One (all?) This needs to be fixed badly as it makes the items you get useless. Occasionally there will be a race when they give me nothing but good-amazing items, and then the next 10 races are me getting garbage items most of the time. On the first item box of each race, there was about as much variety as you could expect. That's annoying.Anyway, what I said yesterday was something like this:Yes you are right, there is no "trends" variable per se in the formula, as we don't know what the formula (it's in Nintendo's hands). They have a formula based on trends, distance and position. No amount of money spent on this genre is high enough ... Watch Dogs: Legion Review – Taking DedSec in The Right Direction Innit, Torchlight 3 Review – Acceptable But Forgettable, Serious Sam 4 Review – If It’s Not Broken, Don’t Fix It, The Invincible Targets 4K With “Smooth” Frame Rates, Uses DualSense Tech For “Complex Interactions”, Haven Dev Discusses Combat, Enemies, & Dragon Ball Z Inspirations, Dirt 5 Designer Talks “Exciting” Post-Launch Plans; New Playgrounds Items In The Works, Counterpoint Games Showcases Godfall Visual Effects, VSR, CAS, How to get the Ghost Rider Skin in Fortnite, PS5 Requires “Heavy Investment” From Casual Gamers, Says Xbox Boss, BloodRayne 1 & 2 Enhanced Versions Dated For PC. Maybe the stuff they addressed with the tweaks just doesn't apply to my racing style, which is largely based on drifting, line efficiency, and defense. Don't want things to go back to the way they were. The items are dice rolls. If you get them and can use them to change your position, then that's perfect, but you can't expect it. The game isn't screwing you or helping you or favoring other players. I'd still rather have MKwiis item distribution, but thats just me. Allows players to throw Fireballs at enemies for a short while although they have a really short range, Piranha Plant In the races, the item probability distributions are chosen depending on the rank of the driver when the Item Box is opened. Yes, chance is all part of the fun. But the second item could help that. I got bombarded in the first race a few times and still placed fourth, and I drove pretty horribly in the rest but didn't place lower than fifth. Bullet Bill Would be interesting to get another view on things. Players can either throw it behind them or in front of them to slow down other racers. These are just like Green Shells but don’t bounce off of walls and instead shatter immediately. Enjoys all sorts of games. Nintendo says its the most balanced, in a sense it is, the guy in 4th, 5th and 6th all get 3 mushrooms! I apologize for the confusion. All that to say.. Two item inventory - you have a Primary Item slot which, upon pressing L, triggers the item held by the player. I don't think there will ever be a "right' formula, because MK has to be a little frustrating at times - it's somewhat part of the gameplay and fun of it all. This can be thrown just like a Banana but after the fuse burns out, the Bob-omb explodes in a large area either spinning out or throwing racers upwards in the air. TIL that item probability distribution in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is not determined by rank, but by distance from the leader. During races, each probability distribution is chosen depending on the distance from the frontrunner in the moment the Item Box was opened. Mario Kart 8; Has item probability been calculated yet? Getting a lead and increasing it still requires masterful driving. Anyway, during a recent online race, I managed to get fiveconsecutive coins in first place before a blue shell got me. But I can still be critical of the game and have fun. Did Nintendo just put out a patch or something? and I feel that MK8 is the worst in the franchise in this respect. Similar to a shell, it can be fired forwards and backwards and then returns to the player twice before it is consumed. I think they've done a great job, considering how different the game is with 12 human players than it used to be with either four human players and no AI or one human player and seven AI. Skip characters. I effectively just ignore people with a star, they're hardly a threat. I had NOOOOO chance. It seems like you have to look at this game a whole other way. It's mostly random. Thanks. Sure it's to do with item distribution. or does your 'luck' carry over from game to game. Simple solution. It was a strange feeling..... ....coming from, you know, getting coins 80% of the time and single green sheels or shrooms the other 20% of the time.... Im seriously hoping it was a patch and not just me getting lucky. I still seem to be winning and losing online as much as I have been since the Wii version. If you can powerslide your butt against a wall, for example. If you drive well enough, you don't NEED to rely on items to push you ahead. Thanks. No longer possible to use an item after it has been used to block an attack. I personally think its a bunch of bullshit, esp when they reward ppl in first place (who take the time to make as many shortcuts as possible and as sharp a turn as possible) with coin after coin. Version 1.2 of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is available now, and it fixes a nice handful of issues for Nintendo Switch owners. In our Items Guide, we have detailed every usable item in the game and the best ways for players to use them in the game. Online matches now end as intended 30 seconds after the first place racer finishes. Check out the full list of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe’s 1.2 patch notes below. You don't always need an item to defend yourself from red shells. It feels like what I do in a race actually matters. I like it. Coins I still can't understand why everyone complains about the coin. maybe we should have a option in all SP and MP modes, to disable position handicap, making it much fairer for 1st place to stay 1st. Players who are behind in online matches will receive items geared toward catching up more frequently. Main platform PC. It was literally 2 laps of nothing but coins. TIL that item probability distribution in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is not determined by rank, but by distance from the leader. I wish we could upload entire races so I can show you guys, but apparently MKTV doesn't count coins as 'items' for them to be shown in 60 seconds. — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! and I feel that MK8 is the worst in the franchise in this respect. Versus races feature five additional distributions sets whose distributions are all made to obtain a specific item and whose purpose is unclear. WHen I am in first I am ALWAYS scared. Yes the Star doesn't speed you up much at all and neither do the mushrooms. :(. Check out the full list of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe’s 1.2 patch notes below. I think being in 10th place on the last item box of the race is what made you have no chance. Mischa grew up with video games and still has a deep love for many - especially fun,…. Mushrooms could use with a bit more speed too. of them took you out and they zoomed by. Sure you CAN twist it in ways to look at it as a positive thing, and make it a challenge in and of itself (e.g moving through the ranks per race), but I find this to be masking the real issue of bad design - the item distribution isn't right. This strikes every enemy racer on the track with a blast of electricity and shrinks them, allowing the user to gain a few spots. It is true you cannot hit anyone with it, but - as far as defense goes - it is not any different from the fake item box present in previous games. I think what we've seen since the Wii version is their struggle to figure out how to keep the classic feel of Mario Kart in such an uncontrollable environment. It's only really good for driving off-road without losing speed. Mario Kart 8 may have the strongest distribution of items in the franchise yet. Sure there's a formula, but it's still random. Again, getting the formula isn't easy, and I don't have a solution, but all I can say is that other Mario Kart games do it better than MK8. I'd rather be mad at myself, though, because at least I can change that. We can't change the game we have at this point (or in the future, since Nintendo has always done their own thing). Coins as items are a waste of time. Let us know in the comments. For me, starting at the head of the pack usually lets me get an easy early lead, while starting at the back makes me work for it.
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